Bottom ball joint conversion to rod ends for Sierra uprights

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Bottom ball joint conversion to rod ends for Sierra uprights

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I'm assuming all uprights use the Sherpa van bottom ball joint QR1774RHT (I have Sierra uprights and sick of the boot getting pinched), is anyone here able to supply a pair of conversion pins and rod ends?

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pins can be bought here...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1474245367

autograss/brisca/kit car/hill climb ford tapper pin

The problem will be finding a rod end to fit the Sherpa thread.
Rob F made new front bones for mine about 4yrs ago.
A project thread on hear too.

Not something I've looked at since buying SSC, but I'm sure it could be sorted.
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Thanks for the info Matt, I hadn't expected the rod end to be the hard part! I'll get looking.

I'll let you know if I need to resort to new bones.

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So...

ebay has a few at massively different price points:

£7.20 for 3/4" x 0.757" UNF OVERSIZE STEERING COLUMN Right Hand Male Rod End Rose Joint
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-4-x-0-757-U ... 58946a6e2d

£13 for 3/4" X 3/4" UNF Male Rod End Right Hand Rose Joint, Bronze Liner
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-4-X-3-4-UNF ... 3f42ddec03

£13 for 3/4" MALE HIGH QUALITY UNF RH ROSE JOINT/ROD END BRISCA F2 STOCK CAR (128a)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-4-MALE-HIGH ... 41928a0625

Or

£36.58! for Aurora Imperial Male General Purpose Rod End Bearings 3/4 UNF RightHand Thread
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aurora-Imperi ... 566246640a

The Stock car one for £13 looks pretty meaty, I could do with a recommendation from someone who has done this before as the only thing I know is that I don't want to get this wrong and find out the hard way!

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Matt was talking about the taper pin to adapt your lower upright joint to rodends if changing wishbones but keeping donor uprights . The rodends themselves aren't the problem . I can get 31,000 lbs strength rodends for 10 to 12 pounds a piece from MacGill Motorsport -- google him :)
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stylussprinter wrote:Matt was talking about the taper pin to adapt your lower upright joint to rodends if changing wishbones but keeping donor uprights . The rodends themselves aren't the problem . I can get 31,000 lbs strength rodends for 10 to 12 pounds a piece from MacGill Motorsport -- google him :)
Think sevensport is looking for a straight swap & keep the original front wishbones.
So... eBay pin (for 1/2" rod end), as upright bottom pin.
& then it would need a 1/2" centre rod-end with the male part matching the Sherpa - It's imperial but about M22 irrc.
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MattD wrote:
stylussprinter wrote:Matt was talking about the taper pin to adapt your lower upright joint to rodends if changing wishbones but keeping donor uprights . The rodends themselves aren't the problem . I can get 31,000 lbs strength rodends for 10 to 12 pounds a piece from MacGill Motorsport -- google him :)
Think sevensport is looking for a straight swap & keep the original front wishbones.
So... eBay pin (for 1/2" rod end), as upright bottom pin.
& then it would need a 1/2" centre rod-end with the male part matching the Sherpa - It's imperial but about M22 irrc.
You won't get a rodend for that combination , best to weld into the threaded end a 5/8th UNF threaded insert then fit a 1/2 inch rodend with 5/8ths shank -- about 12 quid from Mcgill :wink: plus the pin of course.
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Matt, Rob, thanks for the info, I have it sorted!

Bought the pins Matt linked to on ebay, the seller does a bush to convert to 5/8ths, 5/8ths with 3/4 UNF rod ends are readily available. Happy days :-)

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We aim to please :P
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Cool :-)

A bit of future proofing for all owners using the sherpa joint really.

(learn something every day - Sherpa = 3/4 UNF :roll: )
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